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any gun hobbyists?

not so much hobbyist but a full blown nut

it is literally an addiction for me. what is your favorite rifle platform?

Any that function:biggthumpup:

Where are you located? I recently bought a AKS74U parts kit that needs built. The Russians may be communist scum. But MAN do they produce some amazing weapons. AK fanatic here

Illinois..land of tyranny and home of felon governors:lol:

i am originally from ohio and have been living in north carolina for the last five years. both states arent too bad with the gun laws.

Simplicity is the key to their success.
My favorite is an old Remington "Enfield 1917" I restored back to original.
of course the "mini 14" makes me smile:D

i grew up shooting squirrels with .223 and i've been to iraq twice. and hunting people with 5.56 displeases me. but the mini 14 is an amazing gun.

I saw you returned home recently, Welcome back and Thank You for your service.

Thank You for the support!

well I always have like the winchester 30-30, the marlin 44 mag, and the 44-40. I plan on joining a shooting club with a friend of mine that is a retired marine sniper and has the club. going to be interesting to see how bad I am now that I am old lol

I suspect this thread might be one of the most popular...LOL! A LOT of people love their guns!

i do have a few "cowboy" action weapons. and i love them too. i am actually trying to decide if i want to but an 1873 revolving carbine or put my AKS74U kit together first.

I have found it kinda goes hand and hand. People that enjoy the outdoor activities usually have the most common interests. With the way things are going more and more are feeling the love.:)

Is it wrong that I want my kart to be ergonomically pleasing to the tactical application of carrying an AK off hand while driving, and strong hand as a passenger? I know I would never use this application of my favorite weapon in a kart, but considering that I spend a lot of my time day dreaming and preparing for when our government decides to feably attempt to take away our 2nd amendment rights, I can't help but think that it would be totally awesome to be able to take the pig trails while armed for bear where the big boys like the hummers and jeeps can't go..............Yep, its official, Im paranoid. But no matter if your paranoid, or if you just have a vivid imagination, a 30 mikemike mounted to the roll bars of a spiderbox rigged to follow the retinal imagery of the driver, is not only awesome, but could most certainly achieve world peace.

americas economy will fall before they actually try to take our guns. look at the path our society is folowing, look at the time frame inwhich our empire sits. history repeats itself. as for your AK idea shootist. go with an rpk for the passenger and a krink for the driver. since you brought this topic up, a guy in my unit is brain storming a gun mount for my helix, so i can mount my RPK. once we get it finished i will post some pictures up.

I have been shooting Black Powder guns for a long time, so I am big on the single shots, sharp's, Hepburn's, Remington's. The only repeater I have is a 17HMR! :) I love the auto's, just do not want to buy that much ammo.

I am pretty sure there will be an uprising prior to total ban. Not paranoid, prepared...:suspect:
I am going to assume you are a LEO, and no where near Illinois.:banghead:

That 17 is a perfect round. It is one of my favorite. I use that for coyotes.

17HMR is fun to shoot fruit and cats with.

I always wanted one, they shot so flat, great for anything small. I got it 2 years ago for my birthday and have not fired it yet. I just never seam to have the time. I use to reload 200-400 40-65 or 45-70's a week when I was competing, now my reloading bench is buried in the garage somewhere. Isn't this economy great! NOT.

Check out www.ammoseek.com

Wow $2.84 per 45-70 round! At least that place has ammo. Each match I go to takes about 100 rounds for 40 score shots & sighters. I knew there was a reason I havn't been in a while.

To reload the same 100 rounds takes 1lb of powder ($25.00) and 8lb's of lead ($8.00) Hey maybe I can aford this once and a while. Nothing like hitting a 16" plate at 1182 yards with a gun that is over 100 years old.

This youtube is Dave Gullo, owner of Baffalo Arms in Idaho. I competed against him in 2001 & 2007, I think he ended up 2nd or 3rd overall. I did not make it that high, can't see that far from here. I have shot at this same buffalo in Raton, NM and needless to say it took me 4 shots to get to the target. I did hit it, but not first cold bore shot. Dave shoots a 560+ grain bullet so it really has some energy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHUF0gZnwxM

That guy is awesome. Did you notice a little over 4 sec to target? The things that can go wrong in 4 seconds.

The 17 makes an expired can of ravioli go everywhere also.:D

Then you have cost of brass, cost of your reloading equipment. For the more common calibers that is a good site

I could find once fired at one time for 6 to 7 dollars for 5 pounds, any caliber. I think it has climbed a little since then.
I used to shoot IDPA, but have been out of it for over a year, that was a 2 to 300 round evening, 2 nights a week, every week for local events. Never did a national event got hurt after I signed to go to one.

Well all I can say is with guns and buggies who needs women.LOL Any firearm and I do have several are all my favorite. I often look at my collection and some of duplicate and ask myself what the hell I need all these for but can't seem to part with any of them. I personally like the 308 round, but if I had to take one and run it would deffinately be the AK.

.308 is the most efficient round design yet, going off velocity gained vs powder burned. anything .30 cal is worth keeping around to me. i try to stick to common and duplicate calibers. In the event a revolution, uprising, economic break down, zombies happen. if i have a weapon for each of the popular and common calibers i will be set for doing "raids" and finding ammunition.

@300cpilot i have a savage 45-70 and an uberti 45 colt relica that i enjoy shooting very much, although they both can shoot "factory loads" shooting black powder IS great fun!

which AK variants do you fellows have?

i sold my .458 socom ar upper receiver today. going to buy a low end .223 upper to replace it and use the rest of the money to add some fun things to my saiga 12!:biglaugh:

In 2001 I competed with a Pedersoli (Very close to a Uberti) 1874 Sharps and open sights to 500 meters in the A class. I finished 9th over all, beating out about 30 other much more expensive guns. You just need to have the triggers worked on to get the 4-5oz pull for compitition. Uberti's are great guns!

I believe the .308 is a really great round, easy to reload and not as expensive as lesser bullets. It will stop anything up to a Geo!

I always wanted to shot an AK that was fully auto, just once :) I did shoot an MP5-9mm that was fully auto... Only the first round was on target, the rest went into orbit I think.

I got into reloading when I started with the Black Powder and just purchased a Lee starter reloading kit for $95.00. Now the addiction is fully apparent! 4 reloaders, power scales, measurers, drop tubes, dozens of dies and enough powder that I wonder if the fire department would even respond to a house fire. It is a lot of fun to reload about 100 rounds, then it quickly turns to work!

i was on a four man scout strike team my first deployment, we made some interesting shots, the furthest shot i've taken at an actual target was 733m with an m24. hit the target! in a practical sense (protecting the family or strong hold in an economic breakdown or apocalyptic event) i dont train to shoot further than 500m. the only long guns i have at home are an Dragunov and a .50 BMG five shot bolt action i built.
i would love to get into reloading, i "planned" a few times to get started with income tax returns but it seems luck and fate both hate me that time of year.

What receiver did you use on that 50 bmg?
I had possession of a new styer and that was a sweet shooter.
Kicking myself had for getting rid of the AK's I had but they are still easy to acquire. The 30.06 and 300 win mag are two of my favorite large caliber.
I would definitely like to take a sharps for a test ride,

the 50 i built is an AR variant, i have a DSA lower receiver on it at the moment, did you know that 30-06 and .50 bmg are symmetrically exact?

I have a Yugoslavian and the egyption Madi one straight stock and the other a folder, aslo have a polytech match with the 21" barrel. I also have 2 AK-74 kits one is the basic with folder and the other is the Krinkoff as well as a AK47 Krinkoff kit. Havent had the time to build them. I have the flat already drilled receivers which I have to bend and tach on the rails. I posess all tools necessary to do the job all I need is the time.

Its a good thing I play Battlefield 2 & 3 or I would not know much about 1/2 of what is being talked about here. :biglaugh:

For ak variants I have a Romanian wasr10, yugo m70, Romanian RPK, saiga 762x39, amd-65, saiga 12, and a Romanian FPK (dragunov). And a aks-74u parts kit with the triangle skeleton folder
300cpilot, I know about guns like buggymaster, metalstudman1 and sycarms know about buggies if you have questions just ask!

sycarms, how do you like the madi?

I like it, functions great. The Yugo has better finished parts but thats European skills. As far as function I notice no difference between the two. I really loke the AK compared to the AR-15.

TOM

i prefer the yugo builds above any other. they build all of their aks on RPK heavy receivers, the down side is that some of their parts aren't interchangeable with other countries. in my opinion AR's are impractical. it is a precision platform. competition shooting.

I agree the AR is a great plinking gun. Even the AK74 has a better round even though it also is 22 caliber but has plenty of zing. I still think the 308 to be the best infantry round.

TOM

I agree my friend

The 223 is good only as a plinking round, or for small varmints. I don't see why our military is still carrying the expensive colts. We can get AK's for about $250 each, vs the $1000 colt. You shoot a man with a 223 hitting him in the shoulder, and missing vital organs, he stays in the fight, you shoot the same man in the same spot with an AK, his lung gets deflated. AK's can work dirty, greasy, and bent and would shoot fire crackers if you load them, the M4 is picky about what it eats, has to keep a condom over the barrel and the dust cover shut when full battle rattle, hands down, the 223 is an inferior weapon. I think that the 308 is a great round, I just couldn't stand firing it over and over again in a firefight or plinking unless I shot from the hip, the 308 has terrible recoil. And the AR25 is one sexy rifle. Not to get too political, and bootboy understands this, the 223 is the 556 NATO because it adheres to the nomenclature of the Geneva Hague Convention which states that those nations that are apart of the Hague Convention, cannot use rounds that inflict too much damage, they are really only to wound, not kill. And when they wound, the wounded are able to heal, and not limp. Makes a whole lotta sense don't it? Just ask bootboy about the rules of engagement. Thank you bootboy for your two tours, I pray they were all you have to do...............which brings me to my quandry.........my brother is offering me a Colt AR15 for $550, I don't want it but it is such a good deal, I thought I could buy it and trade it for two Ak's.

i agree almost completely with you, when you are shooting down the "two way range" your adrenaline negates all recoil. you wont even remember that recoil played a part in the situation when it is over with. however, in training .308 would become irritating for us smaller framed guys. one round knockdown over irritating recoil, give me an auto loading .300 win mag and i wont complain. i have seen a man take five rounds of 5.56 and not even realize he was shot. on the other hand i have seen a man take one in the shoulder and the round bounce off his collar bone and explode his heart, we build trust in our equipment from consistency. 5.56 only offers this in accuracy. any 30 caliber round trumps the nato 5.56 round completely.

i thank you for your support shootistpd27!

i would jump on the deal before he changes his mind, post the rifle on gunbroker or gunsamerica and try for two ak platform rifles. or try for one decked out one with a few mags and ammunition. someone may jump on the deal.

Well.. I dont think the 223 is that bad of a round the less recoil will allow you to place shots better than a 308 will. The 308 guns are heavy and most are out dated .The best thing about the AR platform is you can make it into just about anything by just changing the upper and a mag. I like my 6.8 AR it is right between the 223 and the 308 . If the military needs something larger and cost effective the 6.8 is it.I mean after all the military developed it in the first place thats why its called 6.8 SPC.All you just have to change the
barrel ,the bolt ,flash hider, and mag every thing else is the same.

The ar platform is a good accurate system, it is far too fragile And expensive for what we (the military) expect and demand from a main battle rifle. As a rifle platform it is amazing in its design. That cannot not be taken from it. .223 as a military's primary round is under powered and unresponsible to use! To demand a force to be the biggest combat multiplier on the planet and issue them varmint hunting calibers is hipocritical. Again the AR system is efficient, accurate and modular to the point that ones imagination can not reach its limit. In my opinion it is not an acceptable main battle rifle for servicemen of the greatest nation on earth!

I do like the rifles but last week I was extremely happy with the performance of my S&W 4506. It made the bad man lay on the floor that was in my house (he was not invited) I believe he peed his pants when I came home and caught him. This is why I have firearms. Plus being a gunsmith.

Well you are lucky you did not have to shoot him for you probably would have been charged. Thats one nice perk we have down here, if someone is in my house I can shoot to kill. In fact if I catch someone leaving with something I have the right to shoot. Not that I would,unless I felt my life was in danger, but its nice to know the law is on your side.

TOM

North Carolina has the protect your castle law aswell, and you can bet I will shoot anyone walking away with my stuff. For more reason than just the free kill. The next house they get someone could get hurt, that individual won't breed other criminals, for the simple fact that I cannot not stand a thief, me killing them will increase the quality of the American socioty, just them breaking into my home endangers my family, the story will get out and deter others from comiting these crimes.

Luckily for us the guy complied and I didn't have to pull the trigger. Illinois has just recently changed the law. It is not a castle law, however you do NOT have to retreat anymore, and they have to be facing towards you "in a threatening mannor" still up for interpretation. We have a long way to go here to help the homeowner and armed citizens. I just thank God it turned out the way it did.

I am glad you are safe and no one was hurt.

When I was a kid, about 13, I was staying at a friend’s house for the night, his parents were in town and 3 guys broke into the house with a machete. My friend’s dad was a gun collector. We locked ourselves in a bedroom with all the guns. The guys never tried to get into the room we were in after they saw that the door was locked. After a while we thought they had left so we made a run for the truck. On the way out we saw one running by the horse barn and I drew a bead on him with a .357 magnum, the only thing that kept me from shooting him was my friend was afraid I would hit a horse. So I did not shoot him. We ran, got in the truck and drove to the neighbors (about 4 miles away) when we got there they took all of our guns so the sheriff wouldn't see them. We had at least 10 guns; we looked like Mexican Bandito’s. I had 2 .357 magnums with western holsters and a box of ammo, plus a shortened 12 gauge shotgun. I don't remember what gun's my friend and his brother had, but they were pistols & shotguns.

Later when the sheriff got there we were riding around identifying these guys, but we had only seen the one guy I almost shot. He was easy to identify, he had crapped his pants and was riding a 10 speed bike on a gravel road trying to get away. The sheriff asked us point blank why we did not tag these guys. I was not sure what he was talking about so my friend said wing them. I piped up and said that I almost did but they were afraid of me hitting a horse. I also said he was running away and it was not right to shoot someone in the back. The sheriff stopped the car and said, "Look those guys hacked through your front door with a machete, next time you shoot them!"

So since that time I have not had any cause to put his wisdom to the test, I never hope too. If someone meant me or my family harm I would do what I needed to do, but I would not like it.

Idaho has a law that if someone has/is robbing you then you can shoot them. It is also an open carry state, if you have a firearm and it is in plain site then you can take it most public places, without a permit. However if you take it to a police station, school or a bank, you will most likely not live to exit the building.

the laws in N.C. give us the right to defend ours homes and lives but the wording can be subjective. Getting acquitted on a justifiable homicide charge can be lengthy and expensive. To cover myself, First shot hits assailant, second shot goes into ceiling,(that would be the warning shot!) I also keep a "throw down", a unregistered, unaccountable pistol to place in their hand in case they are stupid enough to show up to a gun fight unarmed.

Mississippi's law was very well written. It simply states if an intruder is in your house or anywhere on your property and you feel your life is threatened you may use deadly force. There have been several instances where some unarmed breakin artist was shot and killed with no charges brought against the lawful owner.

that is how is should be. if you follow the rules, and moral code of a good society. you wont end up dead. our capital punishments should be much stricter!

Mississippi's Castle law is the only thing that makes me proud to be from Mississippi. The Castle law states that one has no "duty to retreat" in their own home. The old saying went something like "if you shoot them outside of your house when they are trying to kill you, draggem back inside". If I am in my living room and an unwanted lead magnet enters, I can kill him without having to run away to the farthest recesses of my home, and only when I am cornered, may I shoot. If you are at home, or your place of business and a subject who has no legal right to be there, and you feel threatened, you may act accordingly. But my favorite subparagraph of Mississippi's Castle law is that if a person has to kill or wound another in defense of their home or property, then the subject shot or his family have absolutely no right to sue for whatever doodoo bags sue for when they get what they have coming. You know, wrongful death, pain and suffering, you know, just like what all the crackheads in California get to sue for when they are waiting out their sentence for breaking into the house they got shot in just to get out and spend the homeowner's money.:booty:

The part I like about Mississippi's castle law is that it has no grey areas. It says exactly what it means. For example if I were to shoot and kill someone for stealing gas from my property, it is between me and my creator and not the State of Mississippi. I would like to see non violent and even some violent criminals have to pay restitution to their victoms instead of the state, without any red tape as to civil rights since I strongly believe that a person who willfully commits and is convicted of that crime has no civil rights until restitution is paid in full. Although this has nothing to do with guns here is a short video as to one thing tearing into the fabric of our Great Republic(not democracy).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYy3ZYOfgQ&lr=1

TOM

I've been shooting since childhood, 4 years college smallbore rifle team, Commanding Officer of an Army Marksmanship Unit in Germany for a couple of years, NRA Small Arms Instructor, taught firearms marksmanship and safety to 4-H youth in three different counties in Texas for 19 years and conducted the state 4-H Rifle Contest during several of those years. I gathered quite a collection of modern rifles and pistols through those early years, then got disenchanted with guns after a hunting incident shortly after leaving Army active duty. Disposed of all my guns, but after a few years of squirrels and rabbits eating our home grown fruits and veggies, I was able to get over it and got an Ithaca 20 gauge pump, then a Winchester .22 semi auto rifle for such armed conflict. It has grown to include a Kimber .45 1911, Taurus .38 Special revolver for my wife, a couple of derringers - one .22 and one .22 Mag, S&W .22 semi auto, Springfield XDM in 9mm, Springfield M1A in .308, Stag AR-15 in .223, and an oooold .410 single shot I inherited from my Father, and an old Crossman pellet gun I gave my little brother when I went into the Army. I still like to shoot as often as I can as a member of a local gun club and plan on a couple more sidearms.

i enjoyed the video, thanks Tom! here is a series of videos you may enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yOkt-v0Goc
i think videos likes your and the one i just posted are right on the subject of this thread. i own guns to protect my family and other responsible citizens. protecting our way of life is much more than just serving in the military and gun ownership. knowing and admitting what is happening to our great country, then doing what we can to change it contributes to it also.
if this country functioned as an actual republic we wouldn't a large portion of the problems we do now.

I make a trip to South Dakota once a year with my brother-in-law & father-in-law to shoot prairie dogs. I take a 223, 44mag henry lever action, 22 pistol, 17 hmr & 45 colt Ruger. The in-laws shoot primarily 22-250.

We each go through 500-1000 rounds depending on if we get good weather. We ran into rain/wind the last couple of years so we didn't shoot as much. It's still a good time though. We typically just drive around in a truck and stop to setup for shooting. I'm planning on taking the buggy with me this year and they are going to take their ATVs.

Here's a couple video links of our 2009 & 2010 trips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZB2fynHvSo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIWbzYfNVM&feature=fvsr

Looks like fun. I am forced to live in the city, so I shoot the fat squirrels with a pellet gun

Great vids, looks like a fun time. I like my 17hmr for small critters like them, it even works great on coyote.

TOM

the 17hmr is probably my most used varmit rifle. Coyotes hate them, opossums arent too fond of them either.:D

They shoot flat and I have made a few shots at around 100 yards on coyotes that dropped them in their tracks.

TOM

Velocity!

LOL, nothing beats speed!

Go you youtube and type in exploding squirrels. The 17 is one bad little round. Oh yeah guys. I got that colt ar-15 for $550. I can't wait to shoot it, then trade it in for two ak's.

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end up trading that colt?

Nah. my wife got her hands on it. its got a tac dropbipod on it with a tac sling. its her gun now but i kinda beefed up my own collection in the mean time.

Sounds like a deal to me. Did you get your AK's?

I got three more ak's. two romanian. I replaced wood stocks with tapco collapsables. And i got a century arms fold down stock plus 3500 rounds. I tried to post pic but dont know how from my phone. Give me ur email and i can send it that way.

Interested in trading the century? If you are in nc

I would put one up. The new ones come with chrome linned barrels unlike the original chromium lined barrels. Most of the AK ammo is metal jacketed with either a very thin copper plating or a copper wash. Buy the time the bullet reaches the muzzle end it is metal to metal. After time depending on how good the chrome was applied it will start to flake off and the accuracy goes to hell. Its best to only run lead core copper jacketed bullets but they cost more. The russians, chinese and eastern block had the chromium lined barrels in which the barrel itself has no rifling. the barrel is heated and a chromium sleeve with rifling if pressed in. Chromium is very hard and not plating so the use of steel jacketed ammo is no problem. Now if you have a pre 1993 AK it will have the lined barrel
After the assault weapons ban the AK's could not contain more then 10 foreign parts and that part of the ban still exists today. Some were buying the kits and building them on US recievers. These are concidered illegal but I don't know of anyone checking AK's for more then 10 import parts. Just food for thought. If someone posesses one of these it is a fellony just like a full auto. In fact the new regulations state that before a gunsmith can blue a firearm he must posess a license to manufacture. For real, I was told this and I pretty much told the person in a kind way that he was full of sh!t but on my last inspection I asked the compliance officer and he not only confirmed it to be true he also give me a copy of the new regulation. To tell if it is chromium jst look at the muzzle and if chromed the end will look of one type of metal just like your hunting rifle. If chromium you will see the steel of the barrel but you will also see the chromium sleeve for it will not have taken any bluing or parkerizing. My personal e-mail is sycarms@bellsouth.net .