2012 Annual Buggy Bash
 

Just want to let everybody know the Annual Buggy Bash will be June 22,23,& 24 at St Joes State Park in Pimville Missouri. This has been getting bigger every year. The park camping arrangments are second to none, showers feature warm water, bathrooms are immaculate. Trails are more strategic with washouts and huge rocks to steer around. The open areas are sand, lake for swimming, lake for fishing, kids playground. This place is first class. The people are great and is very family oriented. If your looking for a good time this is it. Bring the kids. If you want an electric spot you will have to reserve very soon . Reservations are taken 6 monts in advance so many are getting ready to reserve. Google Missouri State Parks then click on St. Joes. There are pics of the camp sites and ridding areas, prices ect. Don't miss out on the time of your life. Guarenteed.

st joe park link
 

How strict are they in regards to the single rider per atv rule? My sister-in-law was wondering if she would be able to putz around on the 4 wheeler with her daughter. I told her she might just have to borrow one of the buggies for the weekend.

Thanks;

They do inforce the rules if caught. If only designed for one person I would not chance it.


TOM

If it is intended for one person it can only have one person. Everyone even in the camping area MUST wear a DOT approved helmet also. That is riding.

Also except for motorcycles all orv's must have a safty flag with I believe a 72" mast.

TOM

is there a cost and a orv sticker needed

Other than the campsite there is a $6.00 per day riding permit per ridder.

TOM

Would love to trek out for this, but it's the height of my busy season.

well if something should change it would be great to have you there. Guarenteed to be a great time.

TOM

does it change from place to place each year?

No we have had it in Missouri for the past 5 years. It has the best acomodations and is the most centrally located from east of the Rockies to east coast. There are other places but they either lack the camping essentials for families such as warm water clean showers and clean bathrooms as well as ample campsites with electric for campers and our portable shops. Every year it is reviewed, since people are constantly looking for something better or more centrally located but so far St. Joes has gotten the thumbs up by a great majority, but were always looking.

TOM


TOM

yes st joe is the best place we have found that has everything. the staff is very nice, the campgrounds are great and has terrian for everyone. I got the same site as last year. I think most of campground 1 is full

will there be any racing out there because if there is ill be there for sure

Were going to have the drag races, scramble, and hill climb competition. Drags will have the following classes, 110cc and below(kids), 150 stock (includes basic mods eg. cvt mods Uni jetting exh mods), 150 mod ( cam bigbore head work ect), 150 super mod (any mod including stroker cranks), 250 -350 stock, 250-350 mod, 400&larger , 2 cycle. These are not sanctioned races of any kind and are for the fun of it. Just a get together for us buggynuts to test our buggies and have some bragging rights. So it is not per say an organized race for to do so the park would require the permits and insurance needed for an organized event. Besides we don't want to get too organized for our main purpose of being there is to have fun. Were planning on running the drags on Friday which will be for times and grudges only then Saturday morning run to see who is king in their class. The scramble will be Saturday sometime after the drags with the hill climb to follow. Hope to see you there.

TOM

im there and i rock at hill climbs

And lets not foget that Friday night is Hamburger Heaven night when the Funnyman feeds everyone. You will not regret making the trip. You will be among some of the most Fantastic people.

TOM

we need to start on getting the volunteers for the kids events also.

Just curious- where does a stock 200cc fit in the drag race?:) Got any pic's/vid's of the hill climb from last year?

Good Question!! This is the reason I want to hold a sort of qualifying round on Friday. A stroked and fully bored 150 is very close and sometimes over 200cc depending on the amount of stroke and bore. Most already know the performance gains between the stock gy6 and cn250 vs the moded. I will assume you will be in the 150 super mod since the cc's will be close, but since you fall betwen a 150 and 250 the times run on Friday will determine where you end up. The main thing is we want everyone to have fun and not feel they have to put money a bunch of money in their buggy to have a chance to win. This is why we traditionally split classes of 150 and 250. I had just came up with the idea this year for the 150 super mod for those of us who have the stroked engines, since they have a tendency to run quicker in the 300ft. The last couple years the stroked 150's mostly won, so we are going to try to mix things up a bit so others don't feel they have to dump more money in their buggies in order to win. Don't want to make this too complicated either.

TOM

Don't know what kind of timing/start system (if any) you have, but why not set it up as a bracket race (if possible). Let everyone have 2 time trials to figure out their dial-in and then run em off.

so it will kinda be like real races but without the trophys. because i will send out money to get trophys

We are limited on what we can do for we have no lights or time equiptment. What we plan is the line judge will blow the air horn which starts the race as well as the finish line judges stop watches. On Friday all will run 2-3 times, no elimination. This is for us to get times of each buggy for an average time. Saturday will be the eliminations, we will pair the people in their respective classes by there time average to the best of our ability, for it won't be perfect.The first to cross the finish line will be the winner and go on to the next race until we have a winner in each class. There will be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd winner in each class. There is a thread on the BN forum for all to let us know what they will be running so that we can tweak the classes since there are many with Frankenbuggy mods. Not sure what we will do yet with the 2 stroke buggies. This is the reason for the thread so that we can determine before time. Were trying to keep things simple and efficient since most will be there on average 3 days. We have so far 3 events and maybe a fourth for which we will have basically 1 day to run as well as trail ridding. So you can see why we don't want things too complicated and want to run them as efficiently as possible. We also want this to be more fun then competitive. If it were me alone I like competitive since I love dragracing, but most will like it more for the fun and not as much for its competitiveness. We don't want people to think the only way they can win is to have a bunch of money in their buggy. The plan is like in the past is to have trophies to give out. Donations may be accepted but as of now we have not asked for any. It will depend on how many classes we will be running. I will touch on the other 2 events in the near future.

TOM

whats the address i can send money to?

Tom, check with gndoc, he is getting the awards done for the hill climb, maybe yall could team up on them.

I will be doing a clock or something also

Got any pic's/vid's of the hill climb from last year?

I know thyere is some, I can get them from the bash thread on BN and post them here

I'd appreciate it - thanx bige

theres 11 pages of pics but here are a few

the first pic is from the west coast ride

Some more hill shots:

Thanx- That satified my curiousity!! at least the hills aren't not straight up!!!!
The one pic with all the buggies lined up is very impressive:biggthumpup:

we hope to have more this year

that hill look like its a real challange. how many show up to these things?

I think we counted around 60-70 buggys,and around 100 people. We had all of campground one full and 90 pecent of campground 2. my memory is getting bad cause I am old lol

that hill wasent to bad, had to pick the path that was best.

Eric, have you heard if the pilot bunch will be there this year?

TOM

Are the campgrounds full yet? Normally that is my busiest time of the year so getting enough time away to make the trip is next to impossible. I've dropped the bomb and given ample notice/warning. It still may end up being a last minute decision.

I hevnt heard from the pilot guys. we are going to start the campground map this week and will know if they are full or not. Charlie come on down

Anyone from here that wants to attend you will not regret. It family friendly, the campgrounds are top notch and the after the riding is nothing but entertaining.
Friday night during and after hambuger heaven if you are a early sleeper you will miss a great time.

Tom, another BN member and myself are working out the details of awards of some sort. Any and all monitary donations will be recognized and appreciated.
If anyone is interested in an event there will be..
*By CC drag races run by.. sycarms,
*A timed hare scramble open to everyone and winner is based on time, (a 150 won last year).. run by johnnyfazer
*I am running the Hill climb...

You know I'll be there!! I just have to reserve a camp spot I hope there are some still open.

Should be plenty available. I'm still considering whether or not to go, may just have to go ahead and make plans to attend.

All the electric sites are reserved for that weekend, but there are non-electric sites still available. The sites are big, so you may also have a chance to share a site if you know someone that is attending.

James get one. Me and Mike got one as does another of our bud's. Well me and Mike are sharing. 2 down from S. Joe

I don't need no stinkin electrics! lol ... but it would be nice. I'll have to see If I'm able to stay overnight for that too, the old gal's got me on a short leash. I'm only about 1 1/2 hours away so it's not to long of a drive for me.

If you're close, you may be able to leave your buggy at someones site and not have to trailer it home each night.

the bash is just over a month away, hope everyone gets to come

I'm getting my ducks in line as we speak... I have to get my BD spindle unbent... nicked a tree yesterday and the tie rod end is about 1-2mm from the tire.

do we win anything if we win the hill climb

Trophies and bragging rights.

My spiderbox will win everything! lol

Don't discount the orange beast!

Ohh, your gonna make it Soapkart? Looks like I'll have a worthy challenger! lol just kidding I'll probably break something knowing my luck.

Maybe...
 

I just looked and it is a 1670 mile trek to this... so most likely not going to make it. But I sure wish I could.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...c/Untitled.jpg


When are the west coast events?

Piece of cake, what day will you arrive. Just think of all the hungry Arab children you will supply with a hot meal.:ack::yumyum:

Moses Lake, WA for Memorial Day weekend is closer.

I keep forgetting about Moses Lake, wifes already got Memorial Day weekend planned.:cussing:

I missed SYCARMS, sorry, yea the gas cost alone is nearly $900.00 so yea it will feed more than a few of them. Even after the oil exec's take there share!

Have you guys even done a poker run? You hand out cards along the way and best hand at the end wins.

PGH comes to the bash every other year. I think they take a week before and a week after. They stop every day somewhere else to ride and camp, there and back. Kinda the vacation I can only dream of right now. I believe he is somewhere around Seattle. Even going to the Bash in Missouri is only 5 1/2 hours but I go for just about the whole week.
No we never done the poker run, with most getting there on Thurs. and Fri. we have enough with the drags, hill climb and scramble. We try not to be too organized just efficient since everybody is there to chill and not get in a hurry to do the events. But it will probably replace something one year.:party:

This will be my first year attending and looking forward to it. I'm dragging a few people with me and I have some Kin that live in the St. Louis area and they plan on being there also.

Same here, never been, hoping to have a little fun... last time I went to St. Joe I had a little sucky buggy that couldn't really do much. I'm looking to conquer the trails this year with the spiderbox. So basically this is a challenge for me.

My Yerf had no problems with St. Joe Park in 2009 and was one of the few 150's at the time that could do the hill climb (even a couple 250cc and 300cc buggies struggled). Much has changed since then and there are many more 150cc buggies that are capable at this park and the only way a modified 250 will fail you at the park will be due driver error.

Low gearing and tall tires will be your friends at this park since it has many rocks and rough trails at various degrees of inclination. I always preferred to slow crawl verses using speed/momentum and I'm sure it saved my rigs from damage that others saw since mine are not that much beefier than others...

Were always glad to see new faces, the trails are kinda tough so you won't get much speed on them. They have the sand flats as well to open up on. The camping is the best I've seen. The people are great for it is family oriented while us big kids still have our fun. Friday is Hamburger Heaven night compliments of FUNNYMAN . I will be in Campground 1 , E12 to be exact so make sure to stop so I can meet you guys. In fact that site is the main site where all information for events, rides ect will be available. Right now as stated earlier Hamburger Heaven is Friday night at camp E10 usually starts around 7-8 pm. Friday afternoon I plan on having drag trials just to get peoples times to be certain everyone ends up in the proper class, with eliminations so far schedualed for mid Saturday morning with the hair scramble to follow then the hill climb. For the drag races there will be the kids class 110cc and below, 150 stock, 150 mod, and 150 super mod. 250cc stock and mod, then 400cc and larger. The 250 class will include 300cc, the 150 class will go up to 250cc. If you have a 200cc like metal this is what the trials will be for to determine if he will run the 150 class or 250 class but chances are it will run the 150 class. I'm trying to make it as fair and competable as possible. Others are running the scramble and hill climb so I don't have much info on them right now but will report back as I get the info. I hope to see as many of you as possible from Buggymasters attend for this event. The annual buggybash has nothing to do with any forum except to get the word out. Its all about the buggy community for people to see what great people make up this community as well as the fun one can have in this sport. The buggy bash was made possible in 2005 due to the hard work of Steve Hopkins founder of Buggynews and Stuart Taft owner of Blade Powersports solely for the promotion of this sport. The bash has increased every year in numbers even through the hard economic times. So if anyone else is borderline with their decission to attend let me just say that it will make a great family vacation where everyone has fun, the camping is great with very clean restrooms as well as clean warm showers. Now I do believe that all the electric sites have been taken so it will either be tents or campers in a more primitive setting without electric. Showers and restrooms are centrally located in campground 1. Hope to see more of you join us and don't forget to stop by E12 to say hellow and to get the scoop as to what is on the agenda and when.:party::banana::banana::banana::banana::banan a: Oh and I will be arriving on Tuesday 6-19.

TOM

I'm so excited for all of the Buggy addict's that are able to attend the bash- We just can't afford it-1400 miles worth of fuel just isn't in my very tight budget I have, as I still haven't landed a descent paying permanent job yet. I'm sad that I won't be able to meet & play with the fine members of this forum in person. I know everyone that attends will take some good pictures/video to share with us that can't go and post some good stories too.
Tom- thank you for considering my placement in the drags!!!!!!

I was really looking forward to meeting you and Family, but I do totally understand your situation as well as anyone elses. This economy has really taken it's toll on the family especially the middle class family. I do plan on doing some video as well as pictures for those who can't attend. I myself would love to hit more of the bashes around the states but like you and many others the money just don't go too far today. Most who have lost jobs making a descent living are finding that if they can find work especially in their field of expertice they now make half if their lucky and less if not so lucky. People over 50 yrs. of age have the toughest time finding a decent job. So I do understand anyone who just cant attend with strong hopes that one day near we will once again enjoy the fruits of our labor.

Anyone planning on going to this years bash and who would like to compete in the drag races, here are the plans. The classes will be as follows, Kids(110cc and below) 150 stock(no internal engine mods) 150 mod( internal eng mods except strokers) 150 super mod(stroked motors) 250 stock and 250 mod. above 300cc. If attending and interested please e-mail me your information(tom@sycpowersports.com) so that I can determine how many will be running. Also include when planning to arrive. The plans so far are Friday mid to late afternoon will be time trials, each will get 3-4 runs for an average time this will help making sure your in the correct class and to match those within the class. Saturday will be the eliminations in which winner (first to cross finish) goes on, looser is out. More details will be available as we get closer to the Bash.

TOM

yea sure my buggy can do a burnout. ill kick ass bigtime on that hill climb.

What mods do you have? I'm sure we will not be racing in the same class...

I was just kidding anywho... I don't plan on winning anything, I'm just going for the fun of it, and if I participate in any events it will be for the same reason. :)

yea i have a fmf exhast k and n filter royal purple sae 30 e3 plug all on a 12 hp tecumsh engine. its a manco dingo duece custom.

Oh, in that case... I might beat you then! JK... what kind of speed you looking at with that engine?

:joke:Mine will do a burnout if it is soaked in gas and I throw a match on it! :eek:

Actually that would be concidered a burn up, not burn out:laughing:

my engine can do about 55

So all I want to know, is did "buggypowermaker" show up or not?

Somehow, I'm betting on NOT, and if he did, I'm also betting any number of GY6's blew his doors off.....LOL

55, out of a manco Deuce.... St Joe is in Missouri, he'd need to SHOW ME!

I don't recall anyone there from Michigan, but may have missed him, maybe T3beatz knows.

I was just messin' with him, if he were to read the post...he's probably justa teen ager, and couldn't get Dad to make the trip.... the perils of growing up...LOL Wanna do it all, but haven't got the means nor age to get it done...yes I remember those days, barely. Had an old Dart Kart, and did everything I could from using different oils, and spark plugs, point settings, and convincing myself I was making more HP....and trying even harder to convince all my buds....yeah, growing up, those were the days.:party:

Then, as I got older, and started engine building...OVER camming just about everything I could, had no idea about matching components, never asked for advice, always did it the hard way, and paid for evrything about 3 times to get it right....LMAO...those were the days alright.:banghead:

Experience was a hard teacher, but the lessons learned stayed with me, well, they are still with me....

OOOOOPS rambling again....the perils of getting old, rambling and picking on kids...:biglaugh:

LOL, kliff... no he didn't show... Soapkart (Will) did make it down with his yerf he was in the campgrounds next to me he's a really great guy and his yerf held up great in the trails as well. The only thing he said that he really wants to change is the front tires (they are the stock ones from the back). http://www.buggymasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1939

I would love to see that manco do 55 in the sand, or even keep up in the trails.

Next year you have to make it out kliff it was a good time.

T.J.

Sorry I did not get to spend more time with T3beatz and soapkart, with organizing the drags and being bummed my son did not come I was kinda preoccupied in mind. Cannot wait for next years Bash. For those who thought about comming but funds did not allow, try to make it next year. It has always been the 3rd weekend in June. Although a trek for some we choose it for it's central location, great camping with warm clean showers and clean restrooms. The trails can be challenging and you won't go fast but they have the sand flats to open up on and quite a few sandy trails. The people are great and is Family oriented. Try to plan ahead and put some funds aside for next year. Electric spots usually are reserved the end of December 6 months in advance. This year due to the small turnout there were plenty of electric sites on the 100 side although many were reserved several cancelled the last minute due to either new jobs or funds. We do this to try and grow the sport which results in smaller local rides to accure. As I said before and I think T3beatz and soapkart will back me up, it will make for a great vacation for the family or for ones self. Guaranteed.


TOM

I agree, I'm gonna try and take the family with me near the end of the summer.

If you have a spiderbox the trails or nothing... lol ;)

Oh yeah, Hopefully your Son can make it next year Tom... the things we have to go through with the spouses or ex spouses.

[QUOTE=kliff;25688]I was just messin' with him, if he were to read the post...he's probably justa teen ager [QUOTE]
His profile says he owns a small engine shop-
I get so many visitors here that claim to have go karts/buggies that run well above 60mph- I just give them that "LOOK" and shake my head!!!! As many of us know -it seems like 60!!! but is really 30mph.

Tom- My biggest let down this year outside of a good job was missing the bash & meeting you and the other forum members. I'd love to have helped the Spiderbox head count too & punish it somewhere else but here!! My daughter was all bummed out when I told her we couldn't make it- my wife was relieved she wasn't going to be setting in a truck for 14hrs.!!!
I know someone took pic's and vid's--Where are they?

Definitely gonna try for next year, but no promises, as I'm dad's caretaker, it's kinda hard to just take off for a week, Sometimes, just a day is hard to schedule. But I'll do my best.

What's the rule on no generators though? I don't mind shutting down at night(noise) but sure would like to keep the AC going in the trailer during the hotter part of the day....that is, when I'm in it....most of the time I'll be on the buggy, or fraternizing....LOL:party:

I was having so much fun riding I forgot to take pictures. My dad grabbed a couple with his cell phone and I did remember to throw on the GoPro before the group ride. Unfortunately the GoPro memory filled up before we hit the good section of trails T3beatz, stl_kel and the crew hit after the group split up. Regardless here is the video I made with what I had and it will give you some sort of and idea when people talk about all the sand. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj1Cq...&feature=g-upl

Thanx-soapkart for the vid. Almost made me feel as though I was there!!!!!

great video Soapkart, And that was the short part of the ride! it took us what it seemed like forever to get through the other side of trail 100.

If you look at his video, on the right side my videos that I posted pop up. I still have a few more to upload.

T3beatz- I did just that!!! I watched all the vid's you had up from the bash-AWESOME, you gentlemen looked like you were having a great time- Thanx

It was a blast! I'm definitely going to try to go again next year and hopefully extend my stay a couple more days. It's a very nice park. Tom was right on with his description. I wish my camera wouldn't had filled up because the later trails were definitely more exciting and would have made for some killer video footage.

Yeah, the hill we climbed for the event had nothing on some of the hills deep off in the woods. My friend and I got to hit some of them but we didn't want to break our buggies the first day so we stopped and headed back to the camp.
The crazy thing is later on he broke his buggy on the way back on some easier trails... pulled the output shaft right out of the bearing, good thing someone had one with them.

Great vids, the one thing I didn't get to do were the trails, just before the group ride my fans quit working and eng. was getting hot. Oh well there is next year to look fwd. to.

what Tom you didn't get to do the trails? That was some of the best riding... but I know you were downed about your Son not being there. Hopefully next year he can make it, or maybe he can make it to the Fall Blackriver ride?

I spent all day Wednesday drinking and unloading the trailer. Made some short drives around the campsite to see who arrived after every buggy unloaded about one per hour. LOL then Thursday done some more drinking and scoped out the location for the drags. Rode the sand flats for a while. By the time everyone started filing in at the bash on Friday I was trying to organize and do the trials for the eliminations on Saturday. Oh and I think I may have had a few beers. Saturday held the drags then ran the scramble and hillclimb, went to camp to make something to eat then it was group picture time. On the way for the pic the 250 run hot and I then realised my fans weren't comming on so I went back to camp and jumped into the 650 but by the time I got back everyone had left on the group ride so I went back to camp and had some more beer. Had the camera's mounted on the 250 and 650 but no one to ride so no video either. But all in all I had a great time.

Wow, sounds like you had a busy few days... sorry you missed the group ride, it wasn't to long anywayz. Most people dropped off after the end of Soapkarts video, and that was only 14mins from start to finish. That's why the yerf crew went on to finish up the ride for another 30 mins through the rest of the trail.

What were the day time and night time temperatures like out there, this year?

It was in the mid 90's to lower 70's here that week, I'm just trying to figure what the comfort factor would be.

I don't ever remember ridding that part of the trail. It seemed in great shape. Previous years parts we rode had some serious ruts and huge bolders you had to steer around, top speed averaged 10mph in those areas. The trails at Buggyrunners house are 95% pedal to the metal. Glad you soapkart and gang had a great time.

Not really sure what the temps were, I'd have to say low to mid 80's during the day with low humidity but at night I had to cover up in the tent for it got chilly. I got in Tuesday evening, Saturday was the warmest however on Sunday while packing up it was much warmer with the humidity. So we got lucky again this year with weather.

That is sounding better....If I have to cover up at night, I'm comfortable. If I'm sweating my nads off, and trying to sleep...I ain't comfortable!
And IF I can go, my reservation will be so late, I'm sure there won't be any electrical sites available, that's why I was/am curious about the generator rule. I was planning on bringing tools, welder, etc...and a generator. Don't mind shutting down at night, but sure would like to have the ability to use it during the day, into evening, say 8:00PM. After 8:00pm, I'm gonna be looking forward to kicking back, and don't wanna hear no generator, welders, grinders, or nothing else. If it ain't fixed by then, it'll get fixed the next day.

It seems the trails were much better this year than last year when I went with my little Manco (but then again my spiderbox is able to handle much more than my Manco). They have done a lot of work on them in cleaning them up. Our speed averaged on the rest of 100 was about 15-18mph sometimes I was able to push it a little harder.

Tom- just so you'll know-If I can make the trip next year I'm going up early just to help "you" out!!! I'm also gonna get a BUGGYMASTERS.COM decal made and tack it on one of my toys just so we can have some representation in photo's/vid's!!!!That may sound weird but I don't follow any other forums and I think it would be nice for others to know we're available as a family friendly alternative resource on the internet for go karts/mini-buggies.

the week before i was ready go my whole steering system broke i was training for the hill climb hit a bump at about 40 and ruin the entire steering system i can show u pics of it. cost is 756.75 to fix it all but ill be out there next year im po i missed it.

if u get decals made ill buy 5 of them.

Sounds like a great idea to promote this forum. If I may I'll let it be known a bit of history. In the beginning of buggy time circa 2004 there was mainly Carter, Hammerhead, and Blade Powersports. A guy by the name of Steve purchased a buggy and was so impressed with it he told Stu owner of Blade that he was going to start a forum just for buggies thus Buggynews was formed and had taken off very well. Steve and Stu became very good friends in no time. One day Stu asked Steve what he thought about having an annual buggybash for everyone to get together and ride their buggies. Steve thought it to be a great idea and said he would announce it on Buggynews. So in June of 2007 the first Buggybash was held in Kentucky @ paddy's Bluff and has been an annual event since. Buggynews was only the vehicle to promote the bash as well as help sponsor it. I mentioned the bash on this site since the whole purpose was to grow our sport by having the time of our lives as a group once a year. The bash does not belong to Buggynews it belongs to buggyowners. BuggyMasters and Buggynews are both forums for our sport but have very different format in certain areas. Let me know when you have the stickers made for I'll take some for my buggies. Really hope you can make it next year. Your family will have the time of their lives.