And i though my little 03 had it rough. Looks like good intentions and poor execution more than anything. and don't feel bad if you put money into getting it, you've got a good platform to work with no matter what condition. Even if it was spanking new, you'd be cutting and welding on it soon enough. For what i've now got into mine, i could've picked up a really sweet used ride--but then i wouldn't be having all the fun with the grinder and mig. BTW, Mr metal above has an amazing ability to conjure creations out of thin air that most here would give their right arm for.