First off to Miamieddie, I wish this were the case, but if you check thru my "dont you just love it" thread and still continuing I think you'll see what I'm dealing with hear and I dont expect to get any satisfaction from this company! Masterman I'll check with your guy, if Tom isn't able to help me out again, but I'm finding out that these particular valves are the needle in the haystack! I may have to change up this whole set up to something more common place!