Nice thanks guys, will read this mid when I am home tomorrow.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/321337149043?nav=SEARCH
I was wanting to buy one like this. I will get use out of it. I will make and adapt things for my special needs son. I already made a swing for him out of 3/4 " square tubing. Will post pics later. But to bend pipe and not have to have many weld points seems nice. Thanks again.