Thanks for all the replies guys I appreciate them! Slezman I sure Hope u get that job if its what u want! I finally finished the "project from hell" yesterday so I think I'm gonna get some home time for a week or so before I've got to go out on the next one! Hosed all the mud off the buggy's and discovered that the blue one is lacking brakes, so I'm gonna tear into it tonight, after the honey do's! Heck I was even smiling while I was getting the mud off, just thinking about how it got on there!!!