Insane in the Membrane......

[2SlickNick]

I have owned, raced, fixed, and had a passion for ATC's, Quads, and Dirt Bikes since I was 5. I am now 32 and own my first go kart/buggy. I never realized how much of an addiction this could be. I literally think about what I want to do with my kart, when and where I will ride it, what kart I want to purchase next, and what I want to do to the next one purchase; all day long.

I find myself in the garage with every spare moment I have. All though most of what I have done is bolt on; I have had to be quite clever and creative to figure out the best and clean way to do my next modification. I can't wait to purchase a welder and learn how to weld. Then is no telling what will happen after that.
I really love all the input, feedback, and awesome buggies I have seen on this site. I am now a little bit more of insane thanks to my new interest. My wife hates the time I spend in the garage but enjoys riding the kart. My 8 year old daughter loves learning to drive it and spending time getting dirty with me. My 3 1/2 year old special needs boy loves going for rides in the kart (I strap his car seat in and away we go). My 18 month old boy loves it. He makes engine noises all day with his mouth and is full of excitement when he rides in it.
Well guys I now understand what all the hype is about.

- SlickNick

[SLESTAK75]

Funny how one can start to obsess over these things isn't it?? And it would be a RARE woman indeed who could understand the obsessive compulsions of a man. But ya still gotta love em. Glad to hear your work on the kart is paying off. My youngest is 7 and she just screams and hoots and laughs the whole time that buggy is in motion and usually says its the best day ever. Kids are great. And who needs diamonds.........buggies are a guys best friend.

[x-bird]

When it comes time, buy a decent grade gas mig. skip going the cheaper flux-core route. I've always been a Miller advocate. my little 130xp is going on 15 years now and i've only ever had to replace nozzles and tips.

[2SlickNick]

Cool,will keep that in mind.

[2SlickNick]

Oh so true Slestak

[xlint89]

I can relate Nick.

Figured I'd buy my nephews a kart since it has a full roll cage and my sister is all about keeping the boys safe. (if she only knew what kinda stuff those boys are going to get into)

After buying the first kart, I found another one that was "better", so I bought it too. Figured I'd give them the better one of the 2 and sell the other.

Well......... that didn't happen.

You can see the "other" kart in my yerfog 3206 thread.

It is now way better than when I bought it, and the boys want it. Little do they know that their kart is capable of going much faster that it does now. We have it speed limited until they get used to driving it.

And as you can see, I cannot stop altering my kart to fit my needs. Nor can I wait until the day I hear "can you make my kart go faster uncle kevin?"

I nearly teared up when I gave them their first after market parts this Christmas. They got better shocks, new front hubs, and bigger wheels and tires. (sniffle, sniffle....)

[bear]

They should put this stuff in a bag and give it to us I/V style!!! just cant get enuff and I'm really starting to hate cold -ss winters!!! lol

[zman007007]

what winter, its supposed to be in the low 70"s here today. yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[SLESTAK75]

Yup yup. Might get near 70 here in VA today too. And it snowed two days ago. Crazy crazy weather.

[Miamieddie]

I have the power of controlling mother natures winter...........I live in south Florida.lol

[bear]

Yeah, but you miss the beauty of riding in the fall!

[2SlickNick]

That is a joy xlint.
I miss south Florida so much, I moved from ft lauderdale 5 years ago

[xlint89]

You guys are missing all the fun then. Snow riding is killer in these things.

Donuts, drifting, and just spinning tires is really cool I think. (pun intended)

[2SlickNick]

Puns are great! Well Xlint I will have to wait until next winter to try that. I get the same kind of weather you do. I am in northern pan handle of W.V.

[SLESTAK75]

Ive had mine in the snow. It is alot of fun.

[bear]

Yeah, I've ridden in the snow too, but my old bones don't like it much!!!

[Miamieddie]

I've never seen snow. Looks like fun. But my blood is cold not like you alls you guys are warm blooded. I can't take the cold frigid air for long. Once it hits 40 ' s I'm staying indoors.lol...Eddie

[xlint89]

Originally Posted by Miamieddie

I've never seen snow. Looks like fun. But my blood is cold not like you alls you guys are warm blooded. I can't take the cold frigid air for long. Once it hits 40 ' s I'm staying indoors.lol...Eddie

I know you guys can't handle too much cold. I was just in the Keys last month and our parasail boat captain was tucked in behind the windshield with his sweat shirt on practically shivering.


Here, I'm in a bathing suit and T shirt, going "you're nuts, this is beautiful!!" It was 75* that day.

[SLESTAK75]

Supposed to get up in the mid 80's here today. And it snowed last Thursday.

[2SlickNick]

Crazy weather, but buggy riding weather; that is for sure. I just realized I have to take off entire axle to put on new drive sprocket; boo.

[xlint89]

Boo is right. I hope yours comes off pretty easy.

I never got mine off of the kid's cart. I ended up replacing the axle, bearings and the sprocket.

[2SlickNick]

sheesh, it is always something. I will atempt soon.

[SLESTAK75]

Originally Posted by xlint89

Boo is right. I hope yours comes off pretty easy.

I never got mine off of the kid's cart. I ended up replacing the axle, bearings and the sprocket.

Xlint says this but all I hear is...........DOOM..........DOOM ON YOU!!!!!!!

[2SlickNick]

True, LOL!
Quick question. Once I take the tires off, loosen the sprocket hub, loosen the disc brake, does this hex axle just slide off through the flanges? Or do I remove those too?

[SYCARMS]

Not so sure on the 2013 HH if like the older model you will remove the hub nut, hub ( it slides on splines), caliper, loosen chain adjustment then remove masterlink, on each flange there are 3 bolts to remove, lightly with a punch drive the bearing holders from the flange (sometimes you can pull out by hand), then lift out the axle through the flange reliefs. Oh one more thing if you have a speedo disconnect the wire to it on left drivers side.

TOM

[2SlickNick]

Thanks Tom.

[xlint89]

Originally Posted by SLESTAK75

Xlint says this but all I hear is...........DOOM..........DOOM ON YOU!!!!!!!

Stop..... I'm not wishing doom on anyone.

I just know that the sprocket on my nephews Yerf 3203 would NOT come off. It was rusted in place so bad I destroyed everything around it when attempting to remove it.

[SYCARMS]

Oh yea right, how can you make such a statement after sending Murphy down to MB1134's place.

[x-bird]

Originally Posted by SYCARMS

Oh yea right, how can you make such a statement after sending Murphy down to MB1134's place.

Keep it up fellas, just keep him away from me for another week or two ...

[2SlickNick]

haha you guys are a trip. Hope it goes well for me when i attempt this week or next.

[SLESTAK75]

Originally Posted by xlint89

Stop..... I'm not wishing doom on anyone.

I just know that the sprocket on my nephews Yerf 3203 would NOT come off. It was rusted in place so bad I destroyed everything around it when attempting to remove it.

Better put a slab of raw meat on that black eye xlint. I do hope you know by now that I'm full of

[xlint89]

Oh, we know......

[xlint89]

Originally Posted by SYCARMS

Oh yea right, how can you make such a statement after sending Murphy down to MB1134's place.

He must have traveled all night then, cuz he's still hanging out here.


I got a flywheel on a jet ski that will NOT come off. I've broke 2 sockets already trying to remove it.

[SLESTAK75]

Maybe youre just not holding your mouth right xlint.

[zman007007]

xlint if those bolts were lock tited in you may have to heat them cherry red with torch to break the seal and them remove them. even if not lock tited the heat will help break them loose.

[xlint89]

Slestak. I was holding my mouth all different kind of ways. All sorts of colorful language is coming out.

Thanks Zman, but I've been doing all sorts of tricks I've learned over the years for flywheel removal. Tonight I just broke my puller after switching to an impact socket.

There are no bolts holding it on, it's just a taper fit to the crankshaft and some red Loctite holding it.

I've had the flywheel under tension of the puller while heating the flywheel until it "blued". Usually light heat is all it takes.

Then I tried vibrating the flywheel under tension of the puller with an air hammer after holding the torch on it for 4 mins. Still didn't budge......

Safe to say Murphy has been staying with me for the last few days.(you should be good X Bird)

[x-bird]

any chance the flywheel is threaded into the taper?

[xlint89]

No sir. They use a woodruff key. I have had many of these engines apart and never encountered one like this before.

Actually wiped out the threads on the puller last night too after going with an impact socket.

[zman007007]

xlint I ran accross this one time before and I told the people that owned the lawnmower you can carry it else where and you owe me nothing or I wil cut it off and you buy a new one. well needless to say they said go for it and I took a die grinder and cut it off, and replaced it with a used one I found. I to this day have no idea what was holding it. I did slather on a great amount of anti seize before I put the other one on though. LOL I have ran accross this same problem with pullies on the bottom of engines of riding mowers before. I would tell them if it comes off easy fine but I am not spending a lot of time trying to get them off.

[SYCARMS]

The red loctite is what's giving you a fit. Especially depending on which red loctite was used. I learned the hard way that red is used on threads only. Blue on everything else, using nothing on a tapered fit.

[xlint89]

Going to get my hands on a super duty flywheel puller. Then try heating the flywheel with Map gas this time instead of propane. And apply ice (maybe dry ice) or see if I can get my hands on a spray can of something really cold and see if that will do it.

If that doesn't work, cutting it off will be my only other option.

I think part of the problem is the flywheel is a 2 piece design. It has a 3/16" thick piece (threaded/reinforcement for pulling the flywheel) riveted onto the ring gear. I think that may be part of the problem. The heat isn't penetrating to the ring gear which has the long tapered portion that is Loctited to the crank. Pretty sure most of the heat it building up on the 3/16" reinforcement which doesn't really contact the crank or the Loctite.

Unfortunately on these engines, the Loctite is required. The woodruff key is just for locating the flywheel for timing purposes, not actual strength. These engines have a high impact rate on the crankshaft. Every time the boat leaves the water, the engine sees a "no load" condition and races. Then it re-enters the water and has a HUGE force placed on the engine. Remember you have all the rotational mass of the flywheel and the crankshaft counterweights turning almost 8000 RPM (no load) and then seeing a huge load when it re-enters the water. It does this over and over and over again. So if it wasn't for that red Loctite on the taper, there's a good chance the flywheel may spin on the crank and throw engine timing off.

[xlint89]

Originally Posted by xlint89

Going to get my hands on a super duty flywheel puller. Then try heating the flywheel with Map gas this time instead of propane. And apply ice (maybe dry ice) .

Doing that worked!!!!!

[x-bird]

now, since it was murphy, it must have been green loctite (for sleeves etc.).

[jpman]

xlint, glad you got it off. I was going to suggest, put tension on the puller and give the threaded bolt end of it a good rap with a hammer. That seems to work for me.

[xlint89]

Actually that normally does work for me too. Thanks for the suggestion. However, it did not work this time though.

I have to be careful using that way though. These use a pressed fit crankshaft (3 cyl) and if you hit the puller bolt too hard, you can actually cause a binding issue as you drive the crank "in" a little bit more.