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Mini Buggy General Discussion General Discussion forum for Mini Buggies. (American Sportworks, HammerHead, Carter, etc) |
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HH 150 vs. 250
Well I think I narrowed it down to the hammerhead brand.But what size to I get??What's the difference between the 150 and 250 besides 100cc and the price.
speed? torque? durability? mods? I'm kinda leaning towards the 150cc and the only reason being is about 5yrs ago I bought a china quad(kazuma)250cc water cooled and had nothing but problemsverheating,cloged rad,if the thing got wet at all it would die and would not restart for hours.At the same time a friend bought the same quad but a air cooled 150cc and never had a problem.Pls everyone chime in a let me know what you think.
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150s mod : low price
250's dont mod : high price
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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Well there's a pretty good price difference but there is a pretty good power difference to, so I am told. I have not yet owned the HH 250 but have owned other 250's of both the CN250 and the CFMoto flavor. Both of them would outrun any of our 150's. If you take a look at some of the vids on our you tube channel at http://www.youtube.com/buggymasters you can see the difference via a few drag races.
On the other hand, I drove an early 2005 Kinroad that I am confident that my Helix would outrun. If possible, drive both and then make your decision. |
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The HH 250 has independent rear suspension, making off road riding much more comfortable. I'm not really sure about many other significant differences.
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-JoshMy Ride: ASW Carbide Mods: Dr. Pulley Hit Clutch FMF Slip-On Exhaust No Rev. CDI Uni Air Filter 130 Main jet 1500 RPM main clutch spring 11g sliders 75w Halogen Headlights CARBIDE! |
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I would go with the 250cc.
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Thanks, PatNY 2008 HammerHead Super Sport 250cc 32mm Performance Pumper Carburetor Uni Filter Hammerhead Performance Exhaust 145 Main Jet 40 Pilot Jet 1/4 Fuel line Black MRP CDI MRP Performance Coil NGK Iridium Plug Dr.Pulley HIT Clutch White MRP Main Torque Spring Dr.Pulley Variator Dr.Pulley 19gr. Sliders Kenda Front Max 20 x 7-8 Interco Swamp Lite 22 x 11-10 |
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the 250 will ride much better, but cost more. on the hh's both are very good in trails, the passenger compartment is the same. either one would be a good choice, it would depend on your budget and which one you are most comfortable with
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I would also go with the 250, mainly because of its 20hp powerhouse!
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-JoshMy Ride: ASW Carbide Mods: Dr. Pulley Hit Clutch FMF Slip-On Exhaust No Rev. CDI Uni Air Filter 130 Main jet 1500 RPM main clutch spring 11g sliders 75w Halogen Headlights CARBIDE! |
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Thanks for all the info,I have a tough choice to make.
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its not tough! get the 250! you wont be disappointed
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-JoshMy Ride: ASW Carbide Mods: Dr. Pulley Hit Clutch FMF Slip-On Exhaust No Rev. CDI Uni Air Filter 130 Main jet 1500 RPM main clutch spring 11g sliders 75w Halogen Headlights CARBIDE! |
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If you get the 150cc, you're going to regret not getting
the 250cc later on in the future.
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Thanks, PatNY 2008 HammerHead Super Sport 250cc 32mm Performance Pumper Carburetor Uni Filter Hammerhead Performance Exhaust 145 Main Jet 40 Pilot Jet 1/4 Fuel line Black MRP CDI MRP Performance Coil NGK Iridium Plug Dr.Pulley HIT Clutch White MRP Main Torque Spring Dr.Pulley Variator Dr.Pulley 19gr. Sliders Kenda Front Max 20 x 7-8 Interco Swamp Lite 22 x 11-10 |
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what patny said
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-JoshMy Ride: ASW Carbide Mods: Dr. Pulley Hit Clutch FMF Slip-On Exhaust No Rev. CDI Uni Air Filter 130 Main jet 1500 RPM main clutch spring 11g sliders 75w Halogen Headlights CARBIDE! |
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i'd go with the 250 too
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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Ok,let me ask this,150cc with the popular mods roller,main spring,uni,jetted,piped vs. stock 250.Who would win?Not only in a drag,but overall performance,hills etc.If I get the 250 there will be no money left for mods at $3200,on the other hand the 150 at 2199+400 in mods I still have $600 in my pocket.Just trying to get the most for the buck.what do ya'll think.
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04 yerf 3206 rag top uni filter redneck intake 125 jet 16.5x6.5x8 fronts 21x11x10 holeshots on itp's coming soon 10g roller 1500rpm spring |
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both cons and pros
250 pros-hi low, tranny, 20hp, irs, awsome power, great trail machine,bigger stance,more comfetable. 250 cons-realy are non except it is a tad bit wider than the 150 150 pros-smaller, good trail machine, easy to mod, great value. 150 cons-not as much power as a 250, no irs, no hi low tranny. if i were you i would get the 250ss.
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yerf 3206. carlise pxt tires, kawie mojavie shocks, seat covers 9 gram sliders uni air filter. soon to have for 2009 christmas, 20x10-8 tires new ball joints new rins and dalumin dimond plate fog lights homemade roof and a speedometer. MY AVATAR PIC IS WHAT IT EILL LOOK LIKE SORTA |
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like my first post lol
if you wwant the best amount still in your pocket you get 150 get a 250 you get no money and a great machine
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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oh yeah, i completely forgot to mention the hi low transmission
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-JoshMy Ride: ASW Carbide Mods: Dr. Pulley Hit Clutch FMF Slip-On Exhaust No Rev. CDI Uni Air Filter 130 Main jet 1500 RPM main clutch spring 11g sliders 75w Halogen Headlights CARBIDE! |
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The HH150 and 250 body size are the same.
The HH250 SS has Hi / Lo & Reverse transmission. (CF Moto) The Lo is good when climbing hills. With the 250cc, you can do some inexpensive mods that can make a little difference. If money is an issue, I can honestly say that a Stock Hammerhead SS 250cc is good machine by itself. If you want to mod something, I recommend doing the CVT first. 1. Sliders / Rollers 2. Main Torque Spring. Go on Craigslist see if there's anyone selling one used. Good Luck
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Thanks, PatNY 2008 HammerHead Super Sport 250cc 32mm Performance Pumper Carburetor Uni Filter Hammerhead Performance Exhaust 145 Main Jet 40 Pilot Jet 1/4 Fuel line Black MRP CDI MRP Performance Coil NGK Iridium Plug Dr.Pulley HIT Clutch White MRP Main Torque Spring Dr.Pulley Variator Dr.Pulley 19gr. Sliders Kenda Front Max 20 x 7-8 Interco Swamp Lite 22 x 11-10 Last edited by PatNY; 11-25-2009 at 12:42 AM. |
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this all depends on what you want from the buggy, if you want good out of the box performance and ride then go for the 250. if you dont mind a rougher ride and are willing to mod the 150 then go for it.
as said in the above post the 250 has the h/l tranny and is a good climber with good speed with out doing anything to it. if you wanted more from the 250 the cvt mods are cheap enough and are easy to do |
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