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Old 11-26-2009, 09:57 PM
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im going to get new shocks or struts.whats the pros,cons of each?doese any know of any long travel(5 or more'') that are good and cheep(150 pair)? i know you get what you pay for.its ok if thay are long becouse i plan to do some fab work any way.soon to come CARTER EVO
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:58 PM
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and can some one tell me how to post pic. and vid.on my threads so i can post my progress
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what are struts?
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:05 PM
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i dont know a lot about them but it looks like a shock with no spring insted are filled with gass or air or oil i think.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:09 PM
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Instructions for posting a pic in a thread.

#1. Click the "Go Advanced" button at the bottom of the thread.

#2. At the top of the box you type in, there is a button with a paperclip. Click on it.

#3. A window will pop up. Click the "Choose file" button. You have to select the photo you want.

#4. Click the "Upload" button. When it's done, it will be attached.

#5. Finally, close the window, and your pic/pics will show up in the thread.

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Old 11-26-2009, 10:11 PM
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im looking at shocks that are 18'' long with 6'' of travel(my stock shocks have 2'')so when done i should have around 12'' travel in front.have not looked at the back good yet bet the least will be 6''.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:12 PM
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thanks that helps a lot
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will the arms on the buggy even travel 6 inches? and how are you going to get 18 inch struts on it?
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:20 PM
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i will make new arms and all that good stuff.the ones that are on it are to short.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:23 PM
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okay
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:26 PM
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id go with the shocks because you have the prior knowledge on them and you dont really have to mess with them
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:31 PM
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i will move the arms to the front of the buggy like some of the other buggys.that will give a longer weel base some were around 80''(stock is 58'').i will move the rear shock mount at the top becouse it is not in the right place.the way thay have it is at to much of an angel to even work becouse it in a bind.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:32 PM
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id go with the shocks because you have the prior knowledge on them and you dont really have to mess with them
well i dont know one may be better than the other.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:36 PM
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O i raced a honda 250 quad the other day.we were side by side tell about 25mph then it hapend.i got spanked!?at first i thought i had him
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:39 PM
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Really? Are you surprised?
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:41 PM
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no i was surprised to stay with that long.lol
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:48 PM
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Oh, lol
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:40 PM
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here's the thing about the struts and such. It will probably take quite a bit of fabrication to make happen what you are looking for. Because of that, it may be worth it to just look into getting something that already comes with a long travel suspension such as the Kinroad 300 or something similar.
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:33 AM
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shoot no way too much $.im a welder and pipe is cheep,it wont be hard to put something together.
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:44 AM
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here's the thing about the struts and such. It will probably take quite a bit of fabrication to make happen what you are looking for. Because of that, it may be worth it to just look into getting something that already comes with a long travel suspension such as the Kinroad 300 or something similar.
so do you know much about struts?dont worry about the fab work this light tube stuff is easy.when done it will be a nice long travel buggy,i plan to do the hole role cage and every thing.im going to cut everything thing off the buggy and start from the floor and go up.next week i will start a new thread when i get some pic.
it will be tore up from the floor up
comeing soon CARTER EVO
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:23 AM
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i may go with these shocks but i need to here back from them.
http://f-o-a.com/shop/index.php?main...&products_id=2
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:26 AM
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nice choice!
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:27 AM
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may need to keep looking
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look at maxxis
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-adjusted suspension
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well on the rear of my yerf i used kawasaki mojove shocks. i got a used pair on ebay for 25 bucks and thats with shipping. they are 15 inches from eye to eye. worked great.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:29 PM
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zippy,

are thes shocks the ones in the pic
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-ground out hubs
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look at maxxis
maxxis what?
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:11 PM
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well on the rear of my yerf i used kawasaki mojove shocks. i got a used pair on ebay for 25 bucks and thats with shipping. they are 15 inches from eye to eye. worked great.
cool could you tell when you put them on?how are the high speed bumps now?
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Here's a picture of the long travel shock setup that kinroad uses. I bet you could buy the components for a reasonable price and fab them on.



One thing you have mentioned is what your goal is in all of this. What are you trying to accomplish. The answer to that should have some bearing on which way to go.
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Here's a picture of the long travel shock setup that kinroad uses. I bet you could buy the components for a reasonable price and fab them on.



One thing you have mentioned is what your goal is in all of this. What are you trying to accomplish. The answer to that should have some bearing on which way to go.
that kinroad looks good!what im shooting for long travel.the buggy is for me and my wife and were we ride you can go as fast as you can want or you can.the way it is now when im by my self at high speed its to bouncy and with both of us some time it hits the bump stops.i would like to go to the mx track down the road but the way it is now all i could do is ride around the track no jumping.all the vids.on youtube show them nose dive when jumped high.i think the longer wheel base will help that as well give a better ride at hi speed.i live in the woods and you can ride down the side of the hiway in the grass you can jump driveways and big dips top speed is up to you its a fun place to ride.i hope this helps
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Here's a picture of the long travel shock setup that kinroad uses. I bet you could buy the components for a reasonable price and fab them on.



One thing you have mentioned is what your goal is in all of this. What are you trying to accomplish. The answer to that should have some bearing on which way to go.
also do you know how long these a-arms are?or maby another buggy with with long arms
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maxxis what?
maxxis shochs and shunts
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If you want to get real seriious, do a search on you tube for Drakart and look at the setups on those. Ultimate in bad to the bone but plan on having to kick out some dough.

Fox Racing makes a lot of shocks that would work fine for what you are doing too.
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If you want to get real seriious, do a search on you tube for Drakart and look at the setups on those. Ultimate in bad to the bone but plan on having to kick out some dough.

Fox Racing makes a lot of shocks that would work fine for what you are doing too.
i would love to get some fox stuff but thay are to high.the drakarts ars sweet ive been looking at the sinester sand sports buggys im going to build mine to look something like that.
http://www.sinistersandsports.com/2-...ler/index.html
it will look close to the sr2
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