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Old 08-24-2014, 07:32 PM
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Hello, any suggestions would be very helpful, Its a crossfire 150r before i replaced the clutch and variator it would take a few minutes to start rolling then it ran ok no power going up a slight grade, Now it wont hardly move at all, but it will run in reverse just fine.
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:10 PM
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welcome coppertop, sounds like your clutch is not closing like its supposed to, to tighten up on the belt to make it pull.
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:12 PM
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you need to put it on stands and see if its working properly when you accelerate
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:20 PM
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Thanks for the reply Zman, i will get it up in the air tomorrow and see whats going on.
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:29 PM
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sounds like your belt may be stretched or worn out.
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Old 08-26-2014, 05:39 AM
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Also try adjusting your foreword shift cable.
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Old 08-31-2014, 10:40 AM
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Sorry its took so long to get back to this but work has been brutal, Anyway i took the cover off and saw that the pulley was not moving at all it looks like the belt is to tight.
Isn't there supposed to be some slop on the belt?
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yes there should be a little slack in the belt, enough for the pulley to turn without catching it, when idling.
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Old 08-31-2014, 12:57 PM
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ok, with the tires off the ground it does fine as soon as i put it on the ground it barely moves, so i got off it and pushed to a down grade and it gets moving kinda ok. it doesn't seem like its shifting like it used to.
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Did you replace the weights with sliders? are they in correctly? Did you replace clutch springs?
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:38 PM
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its all new. and the weights are rollers, the kit came from Powersports
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I don't think i'm getting enough rpm's to engage the clutch, any idea's.
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sounds as though you may have something broke inside your front variator. probably need to jump the belt and take it apart to see.
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I don't think i'm getting enough rpm's to engage the clutch, any idea's.
Huh.... And it all worked before this?
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yes, But never had any real power, the bell housing was blue so i replaced all of it.
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is the belt new also?
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do you mean it doesn't sound like its revving wide open?
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maybe you could post a vid of it running....
any carb work ever done?
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Yes. And the belt is new. When i had it off the ground and held it wide open the pulley was moving in and out just fine but when it has a load on it the pulley doens't move
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No carb work done, This thing sat outdoors for years so im trying to bring it back to life.
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Sounds like your valves need to be adjusted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0K-ytyjOFg

adjust intake to 0.003 and exhaust 0.005
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when you said the bell housing was blue, did you mean like it was burned from heat?
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Thanks for the vid, I will give it a try.
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:25 PM
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Yes, zman
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:33 PM
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is there a bearing located in that housing where it looked burnt. If so it may be locking up. back behind the clutch that is, on the engine.
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i'm not sure, i will check that. This thing is driving me crazy.
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if it is so that would help explain why there was no power before and still none.
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I mean what else would cause the bell housing to turn blue?
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:00 PM
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done a little adjusting on the carb and got it running a little bit better, it will go up an incline now but not very fast, before i put the new stuff on, it would down shift going up hill and shift up after it leveled out, now its not shifting very much.
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what do you mean by shifting. I have a cart like this and there is no shifting up or down
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well it feels like its shifting, i'm new to these things so maybe this could be the problem.
it jerks somewhat when going uphill like its down shifting then when you get on level ground it jerks and picks up speed like its up shifting
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sounds like something is binding or sticking. ie. bearing ?
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:37 PM
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ok, thanks for all you input, pouring rain her now so i will start digging into it tomorrow.
Thanks again!!
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Old 08-31-2014, 05:15 PM
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Check your clutch. You nay have a broken arm spring. Out of the 3.
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Old 09-07-2014, 10:57 PM
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Ok i got this thing running good now, I took everyones advice and wanted to say thank you for all the help. here is what i done, new plug, cleaned the carb, adjusted the valves, and a redneck intake. I think the valves was the biggest problem. Thanks again.
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I have 150 cc 7150 it runs fine no problems in till u start on anincline and then it just has no movement run great on flat ground but will not pull up an incline. Could.i get some help please
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Have you checked the cvt for weak or broken springs, worn rollers or worn clutch pads? Also what kind of hills are to climbing, where are you located?
 


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