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I want to add front brakes to my Carbide
For some reason, the carbides sold in Princess auto don't come with front brakes. Can I add them? Looks like there are mounts for the callipers but not sure about the how to mount the disc.
Can anybody shed some light? |
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typically there's a series of 4 to 6 threaded bosses in a circle on the buggy side of the hub. take hub off, bolt rotor on, put hub back on.
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Thanks. I'll take a look. Anybody have a carbide with front brakes already on?
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My carbide 150 has front and rear brakes, I believe it's a 2010
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Yeah, I'm not sure what's up with the two different versions.
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Well, right from the horse's mouth I guess. Looks like the new specs are single disc brake.
http://www.amsportworks.com/carbide.php Strange. |
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Interesting, looks like they've made a few changes to it. You could probably add them using parts from the older models. Rotors, calipers, hoses, etc. May even need to swap the master cylinder, i'm not sure if there is one or two ports coming out of it. They must be trying to keep the cost down, i'm not sure why they else they would ditch the front brakes. Did you buy one or just looking?
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Just to give you some sort of budget idea.This is a yerf using Crossfire brakes. I don't imagine the costs would differ greatly from one to the other seeing how they are all pretty much the identical same setup. The cost of hubs, rotors, calipers and the lines came out to be right at $250.00. This doesn't include the cost of a duel master cylinder.
I suspect, since they once were offered, the company simply removed components to save bucks. So it's very likely rotors and calipers would bolt to your existing hubs. It wouldn't make money sense to retool the hubs.So you would save a chunk of change there but may loose your saving if you have to spring for a new master. |
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I checked on mine, the master cylinder has three ports coming out of it, two front and one rear. Maybe youll get lucky and the other two ports are just blocked off?
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No luck with mine. Master cylinder is a single port, but I'm in luck with the hubs. Looks like I have the proper ones with disc mounts.
So I think my items list would be something like this. 2 x front disc 1 x master cylinder for the older model that had front brakes 2 x front calipers and pads. |
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Don't forget the front brake hoses, other than that, looks good.
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Right... houses... kind of important. Could you take a pic of your master cylinder when you get a chance? I want to make sure I'm getting the right one.
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Well, through the ASW parts web site my total would be $312.00 plus shipping. The master cylinder is the biggy... $105.00. Not sure if more stopping power is worth $300+.
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I'll get a picture tonight. Maybe aftermarket parts would be cheaper?
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You know a good place for aftermarket parts?
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Tom at SYC powersports deals with Carbide parts, there is a link at the top of the page. He's very knowledgable on anything buggy related. I've got some pictures of the master cylinder in my phone, I'll get them loaded on here today.
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Hey Danp, I think you have a Zircon from the pictures above. Maybe you could find used parts some on ebay. Just a thought..... Stopping power is always good. Just a single rear brake causes skidding on gravel (in theory).
Also what if you are going up a steep hill and you can't make it up? You hit the brakes (back brakes) as you are rolling backwards and then your buggy flips.... Front brakes keep that from happening, just a thought.
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Hey Nick,
It's an ASW Carbibe, but I think they are the same as the Zircon. Yes, I've already slid into a few things and rolling down a hill is my biggest concern... considering I have my 4 yr old with me almost all the time. |
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This is a brake bios adjuster. it controls line pressure to the front brakes. The lever is incremented in five positions to go from full pressure/full lock to almost no front braking. This allows instant braking choice on the fly for any kind of situation. |
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Now that is awesome. Hmm, I hear you on the disadvantages. I do a lot of forest trail riding, so swinging the back end around is important. Maybe I'll hold off on the front brakes for a season to see if they are really justified. |
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I've got those master cylinder pictures loaded if ya want to take a peek Dan, there seems to be some differences in how they mount up, but still adaptable if you decide to go that route.
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I was about to chime in, but CKAU beat me to it, the last thing you want to do while negotiating backing down a hill, is stop in the middle. It is better to modulate the brakes to control the speed, than to lock it up, besides, once you know you can't make it, you need to start over at the bottom anyway
I also agree on the brake slide for maneuvering, as most of our buggies don't have the greatest articulation when turning.
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