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Old 06-22-2015, 05:03 PM
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Default is a bolt missing?shift rod crossfire 150R

Is a bolt missing from the hole in the first pic? the threads in it looks very clean as if it did have one or a set screw. I am thinking it fell out and has let the shifter rod which goes inside the transmission to raise up which caused the reverse cable to break. It wouldn't budge and I broke the cable trying to shift to reverse. If you have one of these and can give me an answer or post some pics of it I would appreciate it very much. Also is the shifter against the bolt in my pics the same as yours? thanks zman
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:06 PM
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If it's a pin that holds the shift rod in place, you should be able to stick a screwdriver in there and tell. See if there's a groove that a pin would fit into, then lift up on the shift rod.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:25 PM
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its not a pin, if you look close at the 1st pic you can see the threads in the hole.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:43 PM
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Maybe threaded at the top but not at the bottom.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:11 PM
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yea its prob. not I just need to know if anyone else that has one of these could look at theirs and see if it sticks up and bumps against that other bolt, and if it has a bolt or set screw.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:48 PM
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The rod rotates when the cable pulls it so I would think it can't get locked down with a bolt or a set screw.

I wouldn't think you shouldn't be able to lift it by hand either, that's why I think there might be a groove.

Imaging a bolt that only threads in far enough to catch the groove to keep the rod from lifting but not so far that it would stop it from rotating.

Easy enough to check, just stick a screw driver in there and see if you can lift the rod. The screw driver would catch the groove and keep the rod from lifting.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:20 PM
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I understand that, and appreciate what you are saying, but what I am asking is others that may own one of these, is there a bolt there on theirs and if their shift arm is raised up,bumping against that bolt like mine is and also is the shifter arm also over the top of that bolt that is under neath mine.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:48 PM
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It would be great if someone posted up pictures of theirs, but all your questions could be answered in less time then it took you to post the question...lol
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Old 06-23-2015, 03:24 PM
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yea really lol
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:35 PM
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Just my luck to buy the last one of something left in the world. lol
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these help, this is a buddy's of mine i just rebuilt the motor and built an exhaust for it but it's complete. let me know if i missed the angle.
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everything looks great Jersey, this will help me a lot and I appreciate it very much. the position it is in now is it reverse or forward. thanks again for the help. zman
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i didnt look but it should be in nuetral
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these carts do not have a neutral, just forward and reverse.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:04 AM
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actually this one does.......i would just assume it's midway between the 2 on yours. i got your message i will go look for you today.
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I jacked up the rear of the cart and put on jack stands. I can not get the shifter to move at all, even with a pair of channel locks. sooooooo I think what happened is the bolt fell out the shaft raised up and now it won't go back down even when I tapped on it with a hammer and flat punch. I need a breakdown of this transmission. The crossfire 150 is not the same and is all I have been able to find so far.
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:38 PM
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Looking at your pictures it seems the cable would line up perfectly. Doesn't look too high.

Did you try rocking the wheels forward and back while trying to shift?
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Old 06-27-2015, 03:20 PM
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yea I tried rocking it to no avail. even with the channel locks on. that's why I would love to see a break down of the inside of the reverse box. I even cranked it and let it run a little bit and tried moving it then. still no luck. I am wondering what that bolt with the slotted head underneath the shifter is. it has a jam nut on it.
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:27 PM
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No clue what that is. It looks just like the adjuster for a worm gear steering box, like on an old chevy.
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Old 06-28-2015, 03:32 PM
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Jersey I need a pic just like my 1st pic is so I can see if there is a bolt there or a set screw. thanks
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Old 06-28-2015, 03:33 PM
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yea Liduno that is what it looks like. I figured maybe it is to take play out of the shifter shaft.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:22 PM
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I finally found a breakdown of this I hope Alpha doesn't mind me using their picture. If you were to need parts go here to Alpha.
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