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helix 150 with no top end
Just picked up a helix 150. Seller could not get it to run long enough to even pull forward.
He had the choke loose. I reattached it, needled on the carb, and can get about 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. If I manually choke it by covering part of the intake, it will take the whole throttle, otherwise it sounds like it's starving for fuel. I work on antique tractors for a living, so to me it sounds a plugged passage in the carb. But that little pump has me concerned that it may be the problem. Any thoughts? |
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forgot to mention, air cleaner and fan shroud not currently installed, previous owner handed them to me when I purchased the buggy. Could they contribute to the problem?
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have you tried different jets in it yet? i agree, sounds like it's starving if you are choking off the air and it runs better.
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Haven't even pulled the carb for a good cleaning yet.
I bought the cart before I was really ready. I saw it locally for $400 and my boys agreed to work to pay for it. But I didn't want to miss it, so I payed and they will get to ride it when they earn the money. So I has made 4 laps around the yard, and parked in the barn. Don't worry, they are at about $200 in 2 days, it won't take long. |
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Supposedly, itran fine, and was parked for 2 years. I can't even be sure the prvous owner put fresh gas in it. It had 1/2 tank that smalle frsh, but I will dump it out and fill it up in the next couple of days.
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i would start by pulling and cleaning the carb
welcome to the group olderthan
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About 98% of the machines that sit will need the carb cleaned. Just the nature of the beast. Pretty easy job. Be sure that you do not try to clean that pilot jet with a drill bit or anything. Very small passage.
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Buggymaster is right. You need to pull the carb and give it a good cleaning. You will also want to pull the tank and clean as well, while paying attention to the fuel valve since it should have a fine mesh filter which also gets clogged. From what you described you are not getting enough fuel probably due to the main jet or passage being clogged. My opinion is to purchase a gallon of carburetor dip and when carb is totally disassembled soak it over night than clean with carb cleaner and compressed air, this will assure that all of the very small passages are free of buildup. TOM
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pulled down the carb, and cleaned it well. No change has a 114 jet. too small?
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Try this:
1. Check for air leak by the Intake Spray some carb. cleaner and see if there's any response change (may need a new Intake Manifold) 2. Clean Carburetor (let it soak over night) 3. Drain & Clean Fuel Tank (Might need a new Petcock) 4. Get a New Fuel Filter and clean/buy a Fine Mesh Filter 5. Check the floats in the carb. (Might be stuck) 6. To be in the safe side, buy some new main jets, pilot jets and a new spark plugs to tune it up. I don't know what mods were done to it, but if the stock air box was removed and replaced with something like a UNI then go with bigger jets.
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Will do. Where can I buy new jets?
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Any of the trusted dealers from this forum
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Thanks, PatNY 2008 HammerHead Super Sport 250cc 32mm Performance Pumper Carburetor Uni Filter Hammerhead Performance Exhaust 145 Main Jet 40 Pilot Jet 1/4 Fuel line Black MRP CDI MRP Performance Coil NGK Iridium Plug Dr.Pulley HIT Clutch White MRP Main Torque Spring Dr.Pulley Variator Dr.Pulley 19gr. Sliders Kenda Front Max 20 x 7-8 Interco Swamp Lite 22 x 11-10 |
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114 is stock size.
American Sportworks has strange carbs. Whoever machines them is not very consistent. I had a brand new one that just wasn't machined right and would run funny. No way around it other than to buy a new carb for it in that particular case. Talk to Tom at SYC Powersports and find out how much a new carb is. That will eliminate that as your issue. Based on what you are telling me, the carb itself would be a good starting point. When you get one with bad machining, the only thing you can reasonably do is replace it and like I said, I have seen them bad in brand new form. |
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It supposedly ran well before being parked for 2 years. So I was really expecting to find something gummed.
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Found the problem. I pulled the carb apart agaoing, and really looked at the jets. The main I could just barely see through. I used Progressively larger wires until I managed to push through with resistance, and then the next few sizes didn't resist at all.
Plumbed it all back up and just ran it, though i the barn. Predicting rain for next 3 days, but hopefully it will be ready when the eather clears up. Now to find me a toy. JImD |
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glad you got it running
olderthan
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