BuggyMasters.Com - An On Line Mini Buggy Forum and Go Kart Forum

Go Back   BuggyMasters.Com - An On Line Mini Buggy Forum and Go Kart Forum > Technical Discussions > 150cc GY6 and Under Engine Tech

150cc GY6 and Under Engine Tech GY6 and Smaller Technical Discussion Forum

 
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12-17-2018, 02:45 AM
KarterJ1 KarterJ1 is offline
Lurker
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 8
Default Drum brake set up

Newbie. Restoring a go kart for my kids that has a brake pedal and drum brake but no other brake components.

There is no anchor bracket for the brake band. Is it possible to set up the brake band without one end anchored? If so, what's the set up? In case it's relevant, the braking system appears to require a cable, as opposed to a rod. I think. The brake pedal has a hole that goes front/rear (presumably for the cable) and not left/right (which I'm guessing is more likely for a rod).

Sorry if this is not very descriptive. Late night post. Thanks for helping a newb out. I will likely have many more follow up questions!

Last edited by KarterJ1; 12-17-2018 at 03:12 AM.
  #2  
Old 12-17-2018, 08:18 AM
liduno liduno is offline
Heavy Contributor
 

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 702
Default

Pictures of the strap and the kart would help. Does it look like there was an anchor spot that broke off? I've seen brake rods that go straight through the peddle, and I've seen some that have a short cable to a rod.
  #3  
Old 12-17-2018, 03:17 PM
neo71665 neo71665 is offline
Contributor
 

Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 284
Default

Pics would help. I know on some mini bikes the anchor point is a bracket that the axle runs through and holds it.
  #4  
Old 12-17-2018, 03:54 PM
KarterJ1 KarterJ1 is offline
Lurker
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 8
Default

Pics.

How should the brake band be set up? No anchor point.


How should the brake cable (or rod) be set up? Sorry can’t quite see the hole on the pedal for the cable/rod on this pic but you get the idea. Also the return spring?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg E670EBF1-4AF0-4151-B3B8-D011CAB15343.jpg (13.1 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg 66383D5F-2986-4707-B3FA-3151DB519632.jpg (12.1 KB, 20 views)
  #5  
Old 12-17-2018, 04:09 PM
liduno liduno is offline
Heavy Contributor
 

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 702
Default

I may be missing something here, but the first picture is of the centrifugal clutch, not the brake. I have seen brake/clutch combos, but they use a bracket. To me, the brake lever looks like the type that is used with a hydraulic master cylinder? But I guess it could be used with a rod that has a 90 degree bend on the end?
The Brake/Clutch kits I've seen use a cable though.

Brake/Clutch
https://ombwarehouse.com/band-brake-bracket.html
https://www.ombwarehouse.com/univers...brake-kit.html

Last edited by liduno; 12-17-2018 at 04:16 PM.
  #6  
Old 12-17-2018, 08:56 PM
x-bird's Avatar
x-bird x-bird is offline
Power User
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Penciltucky
Posts: 2,518
Default

I know what you're trying to show, very likely set up like the backyard kart style. spring loaded rod goes to short but stout cable. cable connects to band that goes around the drum on the axle. band pivots only on one end. if you look, you should find welded round hole stop tabs for the rod and the cable with slots for the cable probably on the side or center by the driver's seat.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg plane620.jpg (82.5 KB, 5 views)

Last edited by x-bird; 12-17-2018 at 09:01 PM.
  #7  
Old 12-18-2018, 12:55 AM
KarterJ1 KarterJ1 is offline
Lurker
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liduno View Post
Thanks, liduno.

The first link was very helpful. My kart doesn’t have a frame near the drum where the band can be anchored to so this bracket mounted to the engine case seems like the ticket. These pics from the link show it well.




Here is my kart with the mounting holes the bracket would go on. So I should go with something like the above, right?


I’m guessing it requires a brake cable (not rod) which comes with these kits.

So... next question. What kind of brake pedal return spring should I get? See pedal photo upthread.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg F1FC6883-50FC-4CB4-99DB-F97986541CE4.jpg (10.9 KB, 15 views)
File Type: jpg 73D35595-DBF7-43A2-A21F-3E330F3406C1.jpg (13.1 KB, 16 views)
File Type: jpg ADAC629B-CD7F-432C-81CC-F9D9A4154FE4.jpg (16.6 KB, 15 views)

Last edited by KarterJ1; 12-18-2018 at 10:28 AM.
  #8  
Old 12-18-2018, 08:16 AM
liduno liduno is offline
Heavy Contributor
 

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 702
Default

I wonder if you couldn't just add a spring to the brake band?
  #9  
Old 12-18-2018, 10:20 AM
KarterJ1 KarterJ1 is offline
Lurker
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liduno View Post
I wonder if you couldn't just add a spring to the brake band?
Ahh I see. That kit had this photo and it all is starting to make sense. Much appreciated, liduno. I think I have enough info to start ordering!

Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1B77B00E-5F19-4D56-845C-3EF71BB0D8B8.jpg (13.7 KB, 14 views)
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.