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250cc and Above Engine Tech Technical Discussion Forum for 250cc and up Engines |
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CFMoto vs CN250?
In thinking about the few 250's I have had, it seemed to me that the one with the CFMoto engine on it had significant seat of the pants more power compared to the coolster which had the CN250 on it.a
Is a CFMoto just another cloned CN250 or are they a different engine all together like 4-valve heads or something? |
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the biggest diff is the tranny, the cf takes a bigger clutch and has l/h/n/r. seems I do remeber the head is a little diff also, along with the cam.
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Are they supposed to be rated a higher HP? In comparing the two that I have owned, the CFMoto was noticeable faster. Of course it was pretty new and the stator went out on it so it may not be as good quality...or maybe I got a lemon.
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horsepower is pretty close on each. the tranny gearing makes the biggest differance
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I've got one of each, and they both top out at about the same point in overall speed. They aren't even modded the same and get this result.
The main difference is in the low end gearing - the CN250 just won't go up stuff like the CFMoto can. And when I get my new tires on the Joyner.... Oh yes....
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- Mike |
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hey are joyners nice machines?
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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They are really nice. VERY comfortable ride, but are a bit heavier than the average 250cc.
I like that they are solid, even if it's a bit heavier because of it. Only thing I've broken on it is the drive belt, and that was my fault (put too big of tires on it...) Otherwise I've been very happy with it.
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ya that's a whole battle by itself debating joyners vs anything
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awesome ill look in to those some more
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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I can't comment either way on the others in the Joyner's class (Hammerhead, Kinroad, Carter) because I have not driven any of them. All I know is got mine for a great price and have been very happy with it!
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awesome do you know the about price range ?
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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For a new Joyner 250 CFMoto (Hi-Lo forward gearing)? $3500-4000+? Ask Bige, he sells them
Used you can get one for $1500-2500. Mine was $1800 used and a steal at that price.
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rokettas are nice to but i like joyners better ,like the 1100cc buggy
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heliX 150cc -uni filter -rotated tires -stereo -adjusted suspension -lights -soon hammerhead performance exhaust HELIX |
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oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyeeeeaaaaaahhhhh man could you imagine the motor on that thing !!!
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MY HELIX -20' maxxis tires -1 1/2in.UNI air filter -gutted exaust -extended lugs -headlights -reflectors -my stickers -adjusted suspension -ground out hubs (to fit on the tires) helix 150 |
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engine fit question
Does anyone know if the cn250 engine assembly will fit in the Helix buggy?
Winterbuggy |
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It is not a bolt in swap. You will need to fabricate new engine mounts so the sprockets align and build a radiator location.
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Thank You Mr. GX150
Winterbuggy P.S. I did try the dial-a-jet, and it does exactly what they claim. |
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