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Old 01-04-2015, 01:22 PM
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Talking Making my own TM150XRX harness

So I hadn't heard back from any parts companies about a new harness for my TrailMaster (I'm sure Christmas/Holiday time is busy time for these folks), so I've decided to make my own The problem I'd been having is I'd been burning up ground wires (two harness so far) So in listening to other more knowledgeable members I've decided to put thicker gauge wires on the ground system. Here's what my current ground wire looks like.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:31 PM
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I ordered some connectors from electricscooterparts.com and started re-doing the wires. 14G for the wires (which looks to be thicker than stock) and 12G for the main ground.
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2013 Trailmaster XRX 150 Type 86 stroker
Taida 4V head with 23/22mm valves, forged 4V piston,Taida 62mm jug,forged Taida 8200 KDU stroker crank, Koso high-flow oil pump, Taida case half w/ oil cooler ports, Setrab oil cooler,TrailTec Vapor, Mikuni VM26-606, aluminum 30mm intake, Uni filter, aluminum stack, Hammerhead racing exhaust, MotoRio adjustable CDI/HO Coil, Iridium plug, Full Dr Pulley CVT kit w/ 16g sliders, JD's Mikuni slide kit

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Old 01-04-2015, 01:35 PM
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Old and new wires..
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Taida 4V head with 23/22mm valves, forged 4V piston,Taida 62mm jug,forged Taida 8200 KDU stroker crank, Koso high-flow oil pump, Taida case half w/ oil cooler ports, Setrab oil cooler,TrailTec Vapor, Mikuni VM26-606, aluminum 30mm intake, Uni filter, aluminum stack, Hammerhead racing exhaust, MotoRio adjustable CDI/HO Coil, Iridium plug, Full Dr Pulley CVT kit w/ 16g sliders, JD's Mikuni slide kit

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Old 01-04-2015, 01:42 PM
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So far the plan is to sheath the harness is flex conduit and seal it in heat shrink. I'm waiting on some of the other colors of primary wire (trying to keep the color codes the same) and a blade fuse setup to replace the stock fuse.
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Taida 4V head with 23/22mm valves, forged 4V piston,Taida 62mm jug,forged Taida 8200 KDU stroker crank, Koso high-flow oil pump, Taida case half w/ oil cooler ports, Setrab oil cooler,TrailTec Vapor, Mikuni VM26-606, aluminum 30mm intake, Uni filter, aluminum stack, Hammerhead racing exhaust, MotoRio adjustable CDI/HO Coil, Iridium plug, Full Dr Pulley CVT kit w/ 16g sliders, JD's Mikuni slide kit

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Old 01-04-2015, 01:50 PM
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One thing I'm curious about, because I'm a complete noob when comes to wiring is, how does the ground circuit ever actually reach "ground" with rubber tires and all. I'm sure there's a obvious thing I'm not seeing.
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Old 01-04-2015, 02:13 PM
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Ground is a relative term..lol
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:54 AM
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What you are looking at is what I believe is called a floating ground. All that is needed to be classified as a ground is a return path for electric current. If it were connected to " earth " it could simply be called a ground. However, because it does not connect to earth but still provides a return path for electric current, it is called a floating ground.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:01 AM
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Oh... almost forgot. Great source for electrical parts is a place called Waytek.

http://www.waytekwire.com/products/

I'm not taking anything in return for their products, I always try to use what's here first but if you can't find it, they have it or can make it. Such as striped wire which you can order but it requires a minimum footage to be made. They have different styles of battery crimp connections, plastic wire connectors, insulated and non insulated connectors, etc... Order a catalog through them for free and take a look see at your own leisure what they have available.
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:17 PM
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Got one on the way from Jersey Devil too to keep in the spare drawer
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Old 01-17-2015, 04:00 PM
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Major brain fade... I forgot what plugs into what. I took photos, but must have accidentally deleted them... So.. Black wire from battery goes where? I have the wiring diagram so, I should be able to get all the other stuff plugged together, but for some reason I can't remember where the Neg wire from the battery went to.. I need more sleep..
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Taida 4V head with 23/22mm valves, forged 4V piston,Taida 62mm jug,forged Taida 8200 KDU stroker crank, Koso high-flow oil pump, Taida case half w/ oil cooler ports, Setrab oil cooler,TrailTec Vapor, Mikuni VM26-606, aluminum 30mm intake, Uni filter, aluminum stack, Hammerhead racing exhaust, MotoRio adjustable CDI/HO Coil, Iridium plug, Full Dr Pulley CVT kit w/ 16g sliders, JD's Mikuni slide kit

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Old 01-17-2015, 05:28 PM
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In most cases the big black wire from the battery will go to either the frame or the engine block.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:39 PM
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In most cases the big black wire from the battery will go to either the frame or the engine block.
Ha! Yes, I'm stupid and totally forgot..
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Taida 4V head with 23/22mm valves, forged 4V piston,Taida 62mm jug,forged Taida 8200 KDU stroker crank, Koso high-flow oil pump, Taida case half w/ oil cooler ports, Setrab oil cooler,TrailTec Vapor, Mikuni VM26-606, aluminum 30mm intake, Uni filter, aluminum stack, Hammerhead racing exhaust, MotoRio adjustable CDI/HO Coil, Iridium plug, Full Dr Pulley CVT kit w/ 16g sliders, JD's Mikuni slide kit

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Old 01-27-2015, 09:52 AM
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looks good wildbob, keep up the good work!
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:30 AM
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Update: The harness works awesome.
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